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PostSubject: Pinoy Pocketbooks vs. English Pocketbooks Fri May 01, 2009 2:56 pm

Differentiate the two?

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PostSubject: Re: Pinoy Pocketbooks vs. English Pocketbooks Fri May 01, 2009 3:17 pm

i've been reading English pocketbooks like Harlequinn, Mills and Boon, etc quite some time now....and I've seen the difference between the two...

- English's plot evolves on the two main characters itself meanwhile, sa Tagalog plot, kasama pati yun supporting characters like kapatid, magulang, kapitbahay, etc.

- kontrabida is kontrabida sa English characterization. lumalabas lang siya sa confrontation scenes. never siya binigyan ng sariling chapter or isang part ng chapter. mostly, just one or two descriptive paragraph is enough for them.

- conflict is more focus between the two main characters.

- mystery is mystery. because the antagonist is well hidden.

- English pocketbooks can differentiate which genre they're trying to contact with.

these are just IMO and based on my walang-sawa pagbabasa ng ebooks.

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PostSubject: Re: Pinoy Pocketbooks vs. English Pocketbooks Mon May 04, 2009 3:34 pm

If I want a very detailed love scene, I go for English. Not all english pocketbooks are like that though.

Pinoy pocketbooks, on the other hand, are not so much on the love scene. Only a few.


PS. This is just my two cents. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Pinoy Pocketbooks vs. English Pocketbooks Mon May 04, 2009 3:58 pm

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If I want a very detailed love scene, I go for English. Not all english pocketbooks are like that though.

Pinoy pocketbooks, on the other hand, are not so much on the love scene. Only a few.


PS. This is just my two cents. Wink

Hehe... napansin mo rin!?

Mas maganda kasi ang competetion ng publishing sa abroad kaya inspired ang mga english writers magsulat parati. Kaya magaganda ang outputs.

ang tagalog kasi, karamihan, hindi masydong nae-explore pa at na-squeeze out ang creative juice ng mga authors. May mga reason sila kung bakit... Neutral silent Neutral silent

Pero sayang, may ibubuga talaga sila kung mabibigyan lang ng pagkakataon...
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PostSubject: Re: Pinoy Pocketbooks vs. English Pocketbooks Mon May 04, 2009 4:09 pm

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May mga reason sila kung bakit... Neutral silent Neutral silent

Pero sayang, may ibubuga talaga sila kung mabibigyan lang ng pagkakataon...

Naman! Meron pero yun kasi me reasons.
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PostSubject: Re: Pinoy Pocketbooks vs. English Pocketbooks Mon May 04, 2009 4:16 pm

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Catey Amidala Skywalker wrote:



May mga reason sila kung bakit... Neutral silent Neutral silent

Pero sayang, may ibubuga talaga sila kung mabibigyan lang ng pagkakataon...

Naman! Meron pero yun kasi me reasons.

Sayang talaga, as in!
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PostSubject: Re: Pinoy Pocketbooks vs. English Pocketbooks Tue May 05, 2009 11:00 am

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May mga reason sila kung bakit... Neutral silent Neutral silent

Pero sayang, may ibubuga talaga sila kung mabibigyan lang ng pagkakataon...

Naman! Meron pero yun kasi me reasons.

Sayang talaga, as in! [/quo---super..ang daming mgagling...npapanis lng...
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PostSubject: Re: Pinoy Pocketbooks vs. English Pocketbooks Tue May 05, 2009 1:57 pm

so writer should have No HOLDS BARRED in their work! study
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PostSubject: Re: Pinoy Pocketbooks vs. English Pocketbooks Tue May 05, 2009 3:00 pm

ABSOLUTELY! Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Pinoy Pocketbooks vs. English Pocketbooks Tue May 05, 2009 10:00 pm

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so writer should have No HOLDS BARRED in their work! study

nawawalan sila ng gana kasi kaya medyo suppressed talaga sila sa pagsusulat... Maraming dahilan...

Politics
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Personality differences between the editor (or could be the publisher too) and the author
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Oppression (kasama na riyan ang issue ng royalty at copyrights)
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These are the factors that hinder the authors creativeness to write something good...
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PostSubject: Re: Pinoy Pocketbooks vs. English Pocketbooks Thu May 07, 2009 9:48 am

writing should not be just because it's a job but because you like what you are doing and what you are writing...

sayang naman talaga kung maganda ung iniisip mo na plot tapos hindi rin maisusulat because of those reason mention above... eh paano kung un story pala na un ang magbibigay sayo ng break to be known internationally.... Wink

kaya madaming sumisikat na mga english novels dahil ung mga writers can write any genre that they could think of... at pumapatok sa public...

advance na naman ang mga readers natin ngayon...wide na ang horizon nila because of those english books... kaya siguro nman we can experiement na on our own kung kagagatin nga iyon or hindi...
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PostSubject: Re: Pinoy Pocketbooks vs. English Pocketbooks Thu May 07, 2009 2:13 pm

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writing should not be just because it's a job but because you like what you are doing and what you are writing...

sayang naman talaga kung maganda ung iniisip mo na plot tapos hindi rin maisusulat because of those reason mention above... eh paano kung un story pala na un ang magbibigay sayo ng break to be known internationally.... Wink

kaya madaming sumisikat na mga english novels dahil ung mga writers can write any genre that they could think of... at pumapatok sa public...

advance na naman ang mga readers natin ngayon...wide na ang horizon nila because of those english books... kaya siguro nman we can experiement na on our own kung kagagatin nga iyon or hindi...

sana nga sis...

kulang lang talaga sa tulak sis...

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PostSubject: Re: Pinoy Pocketbooks vs. English Pocketbooks Sun Nov 08, 2009 2:45 pm

no more long comparison..i like pinoy pocketbooks more because they are telling stories of pinay in our conservative and pure tune. although english pb's storylines are talented, (no offense) hindi pa rin nila maitatago ang kultura nilang unti-unting kumakain sa kanila..its as if there is no God na lumikha sa kanila para katakutan nila.(nila is not for all of them but to the chosen books na nabasa ko na).
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PostSubject: Re: Pinoy Pocketbooks vs. English Pocketbooks Sun Nov 08, 2009 3:38 pm

Sa tagalog pocket books, I enjoyed every minute.

Sa english pockebooks naman, I'm learning a lot.

ahhh... ang hirap !

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PostSubject: Re: Pinoy Pocketbooks vs. English Pocketbooks Sun Nov 08, 2009 4:39 pm

i like more tagalog pocketbooks one thing kasi
e mas naiintindihan ko siyta kesa sa english
na nakakanosebleed tas dapat me dictionary ka pa
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PostSubject: Re: Pinoy Pocketbooks vs. English Pocketbooks Tue Mar 02, 2010 8:57 pm

English pocketbooks are thicker. When it comes to contents, no holds barred yet it also depends on the market they're targeting. More chapters. The covers are really meant to catch interest. Marami kang pagpipilian. They have historical romances, paranormal, classical, mystery...name it, mayroon ang English pocketbooks.

As of Pinoy pocketbooks, because it's from us, we could easily relate. Sariling atin. Written mostly in our language, by Filipino writers.

To be honest, Tagalog pocketbooks are very far compared to English pocketbooks, but it doesn't mean na hindi magagaling ang mga Filipino writers natin. It just happened that they're not that allowed to explore. Limitado lang ang puwedeng gawin...suppressed. Not to mention, medyo limited din ang mga resources.
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PostSubject: Re: Pinoy Pocketbooks vs. English Pocketbooks Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:56 pm

wow lahat nasabi na..i totally agree with alessandra that if you prefer more love scenes go for english pbs..

it's quite understandable nmn coz filipinos are quite conservative thus the lesser love scene and conventional love scene..ung mga ibang filipino readers na shoshock pa pag medyo detailed love scene..

advantage to us readers,

pinoy pb's are easier to read cos of course it's our first language and they are quite trivial too at some point coz some local authors incorporate english and some other languages as well such as spanish, french etc...

disadvantages: same old plot over and over again..gayahan ng story..nakakasawa ung conflicts..


english pb's just like what ann said it has a really wide range of variety..pag nagsawa ka sa contemporary there's so many genres to choose from unlike pinoy pb's na ur only stuck with romance or horror..the only downside of english pb's s sometimes sa sobrang kapal ng book some parts are not that interisting (madaming palabok kumbaga)
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PostSubject: Re: Pinoy Pocketbooks vs. English Pocketbooks Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:38 am

kaya hindi ako nagsusulat kasi me ganito akong elemento:
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Lacking of patience
Lacking of motivation
Attitude problems

Pero okey naman kasi buong puso naman akong nagbabasa at nagmamahal ng mga ina-idolize kong writer.
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PostSubject: Re: Pinoy Pocketbooks vs. English Pocketbooks Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:14 am

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english pb's just like what ann said it has a really wide range of variety..pag nagsawa ka sa contemporary there's so many genres to choose from unlike pinoy pb's na ur only stuck with romance or horror..the only downside of english pb's s sometimes sa sobrang kapal ng book some parts are not that interisting (madaming palabok kumbaga)[/b][/color]

I agree, Timz. Sobrang descriptive ng setting, character introductions, sobrang dami ng scenes...kumbaga sa hinaba-haba ng kuwento, sila rin naman ang magkakatuluyan. Maraming mga chukchakan scenes pati Razz. And that's for the typical English romance novel ha.
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PostSubject: Re: Pinoy Pocketbooks vs. English Pocketbooks Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:14 pm

English - sexier and bold Very Happy
Tagalog - with limitations Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Pinoy Pocketbooks vs. English Pocketbooks Wed Mar 03, 2010 2:58 pm

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english pb's just like what ann said it has a really wide range of variety..pag nagsawa ka sa contemporary there's so many genres to choose from unlike pinoy pb's na ur only stuck with romance or horror..the only downside of english pb's s sometimes sa sobrang kapal ng book some parts are not that interisting (madaming palabok kumbaga)[/b][/color]

I agree, Timz. Sobrang descriptive ng setting, character introductions, sobrang dami ng scenes...kumbaga sa hinaba-haba ng kuwento, sila rin naman ang magkakatuluyan. Maraming mga chukchakan scenes pati Razz. And that's for the typical English romance novel ha.

lol! lol! lol! lol!

oo nga... maligoy ang english... maraming puno ang pinuputol para sa kunsumo ng papel! eh ilang eksena lang naman ang binabalik-balikan basahin ng reader... di vah?

eh sa tagalog naman, (lalo na yung published sa mga publishing) nakulong na sa box ang mga story...

hindi naman sa pag-aano, sa bookworms pay per view lang ako nakabasa ng fast paced but out of the box story ng Flipino format na romance novels...
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PostSubject: Re: Pinoy Pocketbooks vs. English Pocketbooks Sat Mar 20, 2010 4:18 am

korek ann..hahaha...kuhang kuha mo..lol
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PostSubject: Re: Pinoy Pocketbooks vs. English Pocketbooks Sat Mar 20, 2010 4:23 am

yeah, i´ve been reading harlequin for so long now... well first and for all, mas mahaba ang harlequin... lol! hmm... and the love making -mas grabe! Wink Embarassed lol! but hmm... luv ko silang pareho kasi magkaiba sila, so pag bored ka sa english - mag tagalog... lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Pinoy Pocketbooks vs. English Pocketbooks Sat Mar 20, 2010 4:27 am

yeah kasi minsan sa tagalog my god the main character only kiss once, and then sa ending pa! hehheh! minsan it´s so maria clara...
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PostSubject: Re: Pinoy Pocketbooks vs. English Pocketbooks Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:02 am

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english pb's just like what ann said it has a really wide range of variety..pag nagsawa ka sa contemporary there's so many genres to choose from unlike pinoy pb's na ur only stuck with romance or horror..the only downside of english pb's s sometimes sa sobrang kapal ng book some parts are not that interisting (madaming palabok kumbaga)[/b]

I agree, Timz. Sobrang descriptive ng setting, character introductions, sobrang dami ng scenes...kumbaga sa hinaba-haba ng kuwento, sila rin naman ang magkakatuluyan. Maraming mga chukchakan scenes pati Razz. And that's for the typical English romance novel ha.

lol! lol! lol! lol!

oo nga... maligoy ang english... maraming puno ang pinuputol para sa kunsumo ng papel! eh ilang eksena lang naman ang binabalik-balikan basahin ng reader... di vah?

eh sa tagalog naman, (lalo na yung published sa mga publishing) nakulong na sa box ang mga story...

hindi naman sa pag-aano, sa bookworms pay per view lang ako nakabasa ng fast paced but out of the box story ng Flipino format na romance novels...


korek ka rin jan cate...actually dito lang ako nakakita ng historical romance na tagalog albeit about native americans but it was historical nevertheless..

actually meron na rin ako nabasa na historical na tagalog by martha cecilia but i was never really happy with the way her story turned out..nakakabore and OA ang pagka archaic ng tagalog ah..as in..and the time travel..

i believe that when you're writing a series it has to have a sole theme or genre..like kunyari umikot na sa reality ung series mahirap na haluan ng fantasy un kc parang labo labo na kumbaga...


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